In hopes of achieving that elusive double slash (or grigne) on my facsimile of Sullivan Street Bakery's Truccione loaf, I put out some selfies of my loaves in different corners of the bread diaspora. Below are some return words of advice that were returned.
Thanks to Phil Agnew, Michael the baker, Aidan Chapman,and Codruta Popa, among others! Bread is personal. It's as subjective as wine or art. But happily any baker can get better insight from more experienced brethren. It's like breaking bread and sharing a loaf!
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Aidan ChapmanVery shallow cut with a fresh razor
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Aidan ChapmanA done deal Michael Thebaker
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Jeremy Shapiroas opposed to a dull razor?
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Jeremy ShapiroAidan, in all seriousness, how do you get a double grigne?
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Aidan ChapmanJust touching the skin with the very sharp razor like a butterfly gently runnin across
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Jeremy Shapirotop, side…what angle?
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Michael ThebakerJeremy as far as I can see there is no double grigne. Ear on one side only. due to cut and also the direction of mould, ie tension in dough. Double grigne only with two cuts in opposite directions. Sharp razor cut almost horizontal and NOT deep. The dough does the rest.
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Aidan ChapmanVery slightly on a angle like cutting skin
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Michael ThebakerJust so Aidan
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Jeremy ShapiroThanks Michael and Aidan, meant to say how "to" for that double one, not this beauty which is bitchifying initself…monster work!
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Michael ThebakerAngle almost horizontal BUT try to place every loaf with tension in the same direction otherwise some loaves will burst and some not. Cut away from tension do dough pulls back to make earb
I think double ear it's made when a certain angle is applied when scoring
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pipsbread@jerm_11104 make it wetter 😉jerm_11104@pipsbread probably, or too young, it's around 75-80!!jerm_11104Wetter why? @pipsbreadpipsbread@jerm_11104 really? It looks young … But even the profile shape hasn't slumped at all in the oven … Go more water … And maybe warmer or longer bulk …jerm_11104@pipsbread I bulk proofed for over 8 hours in fridge, it's 80% hyd, maybe longer final proof? Or I push the envelope to 95-100% hydr!?pipsbread@jerm_11104 perhaps a little wetter with a warm bulk room temp, reckon it's not developed enough … Preshape a little earlier than you normally would for room temp bulk and shape it tight and retard proof. Single score straight the middle with a tiny bit of an angle. See if that gets you a double gringe 🙂jerm_11104@pipsbread thx mate! I'm on it!
I get a double grigne by a shallow slash followed by a deeper slash in the same place. Like you didn’t slash deep enough so you try again.
In addition to seconding Phil’s advice, it appears your oven was too hot, especially the floor. This causes loaves to lift wicked fast from the bottom up, forming a cross-section resembling a submarine (circular) rather than a UFO (ovoid with a flat bottom). (For the record, I’m the dude behind Phil in the above photo.)
cheers Ian, I miss your blog you used to have! I’ve since been working on this particular loaf, again, and again, and again, I think I am getting it finally, and the advice is welcome! I followed Phil’s advice regarding longer bulk and fold, then tighter shaping and cold retard…Last one I did was pretty good, just the cut was I think too shallow… Thanks,
Jeremy